[JPL] Roland Kirk

Tue Jul 3 09:28:33 EDT 2007

Coleman Hawkins lineage via DON BYAS - I had many conversations with him 
about Byas who he considered an equal to Charlie Parker.

Len Dobbin
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> Kind Sirs Len & Jim,
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> Thanks for anecdotes!
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> I've been a fan of his music since I discovered him around 1979, and the
> recordings with Mingus are indeed quite wonderful. I wasn't around in
> the days when he played Keystone Korner (I moved here in 1979), but
> would have liked to have heard him in person. I have seen some films,
> and they're brilliant. I really got into Prepare Thyself to Deal with a
> Miracle, The Case of the Three Sided Dream..., and Other Folks Music as
> an introduction, and from there I discovered the Mingus stuff and the
> earlier stuff, like Rip Rig and Panic and the early quartet recordings
> on Mercury.
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> His tenor is still an inspiration when I think of sound innovators - he
> was one of those guys that took Coleman Hawkin's lineage and went
> somewhere completely different with it.
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> Cheers!
> Phillip Greenlief
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> [mailto:jazzproglist-bounces at jazzweek.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wilke
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> Len, that's certainly the kind of guy he was.  My personal recollection
> of R.R.Kirk comes from doing several live broadcasts with his group
> from The Penthouse in Seattle in the 60s.  Before I saw him in action I
> thought anybody attempting to play more than one reed instrument at a
> time must be attempting some kind of circus act, but the first 15
> minutes of listening convinced me that he was a real creative artist.
> Funny and entertaining, but like Dizzy, serious about his art and an
> unbelievable talent whether playing one instrument or three at a time.
> He usually had several hanging around his neck along with various
> whistles, sirens & nose flutes and he was very creative with duct tape
> to hold them together.  He also stitched together his sets like some
> kind of crazy quilt, employing pop songs, spirituals & hymns, jazz
> burners & ballads, classical pieces and dialogue.
>
> One of my favorite moments came between tunes when he chided listeners
> to the live broadcast ... "I know you're out there" he said,  "sittin'
> in the dark tapin' my music,  while the good folks here in the club are
> spending their money to hear me play!"    We hung out a bit after gigs
> and he revealed himself to be a philosopher and quite a student of
> human nature as well.   I treasure the memory of hearing him in person
> and getting to know him a little.  I certainly paid a lot more
> attention to his albums after that.  I've got audio tape but I wish I
> had video of some of those sets!   Interesting to consider how a guy
> who was blind before it became "visually impaired"  ("BLIND POWER!" he
> used to shout)  was so visually entertaining and how he used that to
> draw people into his aural art.
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> Jim Wilke
> Jazz After Hours, PRI
> www.jazzafterhours.org
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> On Monday, July 2, 2007, at 05:46  PM, Len Dobbin wrote:
>>
>> The difference perhaps because of his suffering a stroke - "The Jaki
>> Byard Experience" is another that you might like - and check out his
>> work with Mingus.  In person he was UNREAL - a fond memory in 1964,
>> upon discovering it was my birthday, he bought me a beer and dedicated
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>> the first set to me. I first met him record shopping in Sam Goodys in
>> NYC - not long before he made his first Montreal appearance.
>>
>> Try UTUBE he has to be seen as well as heard !
>>
>> Len
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Greenlief"
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>>> On Behalf Of Len Dobbin
>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:32 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [JPL] Roland Kirk
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>>> The Roy HAYNES session with Kirk and Tommy was done in May 1962 for
>>> Impulse.
>>> "Out Of The Aftrenoon" is the title.  "Rip, Rig and Panic" with an
>>> entirely
>>> different personnel: Jaki Byard, Richard Davis and Elvin Jones is
> from
>>> January 1965.  I don't see the connection.
>>>
>>> Len Dobbin
>>>
>>> PG:
>>> The connection is the way he plays on both albums...the sound of his
>>> horn, phrasing, etc. Yes, they are a few years apart, but HIS playing
>>> (not the band) sounds similar to me. On his later recordings he has a
>>> really different "sound" on the horns...that's all I was saying.
>>>
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